Comments on: Automatic file server upgrades https://blog.nearlyfreespeech.net/2014/08/01/automatic-file-server-upgrades/ A blog from the staff at NearlyFreeSpeech.NET. Tue, 26 Aug 2014 02:27:28 +0000 hourly 1 By: JamesLaffrey https://blog.nearlyfreespeech.net/2014/08/01/automatic-file-server-upgrades/#comment-13509 Tue, 26 Aug 2014 02:27:28 +0000 https://blog.nearlyfreespeech.net/?p=432#comment-13509 I also enjoyed a lol, thanks to your humor-spiced message.

For those of us who manage to learn enough of the gobbldygook of coding websites in order to launch and maintain a site here, it’s hard to imagine a better place than NFS.

I admire the way you make decisions, limit emails to essentials, and explain processes for anyone to see if we simply login and update ourselves occasionally.

Gratefully,
James T. Laffrey

PS. You have the best “Leave A Comment” intro: “This blog is our free speech platform, not necessarily yours.”

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By: JASON https://blog.nearlyfreespeech.net/2014/08/01/automatic-file-server-upgrades/#comment-13474 Tue, 19 Aug 2014 15:08:05 +0000 https://blog.nearlyfreespeech.net/?p=432#comment-13474 Lol. Thank you guys for an entertaining read. Being a fan of the original Hitchhiker’s Guide series, I can just see that super cool black spaceship now while Disaster Area plays one of their songs about boy-being meeting girl-being… as they speed headlong into a blazing sun…

NFS rocks!

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By: jdw https://blog.nearlyfreespeech.net/2014/08/01/automatic-file-server-upgrades/#comment-13472 Mon, 18 Aug 2014 14:36:29 +0000 https://blog.nearlyfreespeech.net/?p=432#comment-13472 In reply to ayo.

We have used our Twitter account to keep our members informed about maintenance and updates since 2010. -jdw

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By: ayo https://blog.nearlyfreespeech.net/2014/08/01/automatic-file-server-upgrades/#comment-13471 Mon, 18 Aug 2014 14:23:55 +0000 https://blog.nearlyfreespeech.net/?p=432#comment-13471 Why don’t you have a Twitter account and keep your customers updated with any maintenance or updates? I find it rather bizarre that you have no Twitter account in this day and age.

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By: pnutjam https://blog.nearlyfreespeech.net/2014/08/01/automatic-file-server-upgrades/#comment-13460 Fri, 15 Aug 2014 15:27:56 +0000 https://blog.nearlyfreespeech.net/?p=432#comment-13460 Put me in the don’t care what you do if it doesn’t break my stuff camp. I’m not a huge user, if i was I would pay more attention to this stuff.

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By: jdw https://blog.nearlyfreespeech.net/2014/08/01/automatic-file-server-upgrades/#comment-13452 Wed, 13 Aug 2014 03:13:46 +0000 https://blog.nearlyfreespeech.net/?p=432#comment-13452 In reply to jdw.

To put a different spin on this, I think if we could poll all of our members (you know, somehow, without emailing them) with a question like “Do you think we should send out email updates about things that are important to you?” we would see a response of something like 90% yes, 10% no. But if we asked a more specific question like, “Should we send out email updates in situation _____?” or “Should these messages be opt-in or opt-out?” the answer rates would be a lot closer to 50/50.

So, say we had one button to opt-in to messages sent out in two very specific situations. If each one of those three points got a 50/50 response, already 87.5% percent of people are at least somewhat dissatisfied with the implementation. It’s hard to call that anything but a failure.

Confronted with math like that, the natural instinct is to shut up and keep your head down.

(Keep in mind that most of the specific situations that would poll really well are individualized ones that we already notify about: your balance is low or zero, your domain is about to expire, we detected somebody trying to hack your WordPress blog, etc. Generic broadcast messages are much more balanced, as evidenced by the person who says they’re on freebsd6; quite a lot of people don’t care what we do as long as it don’t break their stuff.)

-jdw

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By: jdw https://blog.nearlyfreespeech.net/2014/08/01/automatic-file-server-upgrades/#comment-13451 Wed, 13 Aug 2014 02:43:53 +0000 https://blog.nearlyfreespeech.net/?p=432#comment-13451 In reply to Adam.

First I want to reiterate from my previous comment: “In the future, we would like to offer a more general option to receive blog posts by email, but I don’t have any timeline for when that might be implemented.”

However, I also think the three comments requesting similar-but-not-identical things illustrate the fundamental problem with broadcast emails. Each of these three messages want to receive email updates, but each wants email updates about a different subset of things. Two say they think it should be opt-in. One sounds like it should be opt-out. No one solution meets the criteria of all three people, and that’s just three people.

The other problem is that every email sent that a person doesn’t care about reduces the amount of attention they’ll pay to future emails. We purposefully don’t email people very much so that when we do, they know it’s important.

So this is one of those rough areas where there’s nothing we can do that will satisfy everyone, and I’m sorry for that. So in the future we’ll do something basic and middle-of-the-road, like offer a more general option to receive blog posts by email. (Actually, probably notification of the posts.) But I don’t have any timeline for when that might be implemented. 🙂

-jdw

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By: Adam https://blog.nearlyfreespeech.net/2014/08/01/automatic-file-server-upgrades/#comment-13450 Wed, 13 Aug 2014 00:30:22 +0000 https://blog.nearlyfreespeech.net/?p=432#comment-13450 I certainly appreciate that you do not send out emails all the time, but I do believe it might be helpful to allow people to opt-in to certain updates. Even a subscribe to blog signup would be nice and it would be completely opt in. There are lots of providers that could do it for you, I’ve used MailChimp. For smaller lists, you could even do it for free.

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By: jdw https://blog.nearlyfreespeech.net/2014/08/01/automatic-file-server-upgrades/#comment-13441 Mon, 11 Aug 2014 06:01:37 +0000 https://blog.nearlyfreespeech.net/?p=432#comment-13441 In reply to rp.

While I understand that you personally might prefer we send out regular mass email updates about the status of our service, and that you’re probably not alone in that wish, that is not our practice. The majority of our members prefer that we not do so, so the supported ways to get routine information about updates are through our blog, our Twitter feed, and our offsite status page. Most of our members are aware of this either through those, or because it has caused visible downtime on two separate occasions this year.

As outlined in the post, we are sending email messages upon completion of the migration, since our system is able to analyze the site during the migration and try to spot trouble. Thus that’s the point where our system can generate messages for people that contain specific information relevant to them. What we are finding with that approach is that the number of sites for which this migration requires any action at all isn’t just less than 1%, it’s running about 1 in 1000. And in some of those cases, the action needed was due to a (now fixed) glitch on our part with the migration. So we do feel the decision not to send out a mass email is the correct one, as in almost all cases it would be repeating information that people already know about something they don’t need to do anything about.

In any case, I understand your point of view and I’m sorry we aren’t able to accommodate everyone’s individual contact preferences during unique situations like this. In the future, we would like to offer a more general option to receive blog posts by email, but I don’t have any timeline for when that might be implemented.

-jdw

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By: rp https://blog.nearlyfreespeech.net/2014/08/01/automatic-file-server-upgrades/#comment-13440 Mon, 11 Aug 2014 05:28:06 +0000 https://blog.nearlyfreespeech.net/?p=432#comment-13440 “As most of our members are aware…” How exactly would we be aware of this? I certainly had no inkling, either of problems with the servers hosting my sites, or of the impending migration, and it’s only pure chance that I logged into my site panel tonight to discover there was a planned upgrade.

Would have been really nice if you’d reached out to affected folks over email about *before* this happened.

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