Comments on: Service & pricing changes finalized A blog from the staff at NearlyFreeSpeech.NET. Mon, 09 Nov 2009 09:54:55 +0000 hourly 1 By: ken o Mon, 09 Nov 2009 09:54:55 +0000 hey, good work on updating the pricing plan. i used to host w/ which is subsidized like crazy, though lately most of the staff don’t know enough so service has gone downhill. (as in, weeks of downtime.)

there is NO free lunch in nature, and it’s about time that every relationship accounted for this. (as in other countries, and finally here.) we had a good cornucopian run in the 80s, 90s, 00s… back to reality 😉

you do realize the internet won’t exist in 20 years right? :p keep up the good work.


By: ken Tue, 06 Oct 2009 18:46:30 +0000 Awesome work on the new pricing.

I went to the support site, saw the drop-down menu for free/common/routine support issues, and thought, “Hot damn that is a good idea”. Makes it very clear which admin tasks are admin tasks only because they haven’t been automated or put in the UI (or are too security-sensitive to be automated), and which are things the user should be paying for.

Nice work, as always.

By: Jack Sat, 29 Aug 2009 00:56:43 +0000 I just saw this post almost a month after I received the notice. At first I was concerned and a bit miffed at the thought of paying a extra, even if it is a tiny bit.

I’ve come to the conclusion that this price restructuring is fair and will actually help clamp down on the spam and wastage on the internet as a whole. If you don’t want to incur the extra fees, you have to cut down on the usage certain extra features costs for resources. Thereby, many of you can maintain low costs by switching to a “static” type of site.

I think the old NFS slogan still stands “only pay for what you use”, remember “dynamic” sites take up more resources for even the tiniest of calls

By: KC Wed, 19 Aug 2009 13:04:03 +0000 I agree with Will and NIck from the last few posts above. The ethics and transparency being shown are far superior to what might be expected elsewhere in the webhosting world.

And, JDW writes great posts. Former English major maybe? They’re almost fun to read.

By: Will Sat, 08 Aug 2009 23:15:46 +0000 You’re telling me you’re charging me more and yet somehow I actually love you more for it. What have you created?!

Never stop candid blogs like these. They remind me how secure my investment is above any other host I’ve dealt with.

By: Toby Bartels Thu, 06 Aug 2009 17:46:50 +0000 I wouldn’t be at all surprised if Viktor (Aug 4) didn’t intend to defraud anybody but simply misread the offer. One of the reasons why companies offer loss leaders is that (whatever the company’s intentions) they sometimes trick people into thinking that they’re better than they really are.

Anyway, I’m new here, and I was a little worried to see prices going up just after I started. But the prices are still low, and the openness of the process is impressive. So I’m staying.

“After a year you just get another one” was what pushed us to conclude that he understood exactly what he was proposing. -jdw

By: Ingbert Thu, 06 Aug 2009 16:09:49 +0000 I have to say, I use your site more for your commitment to upholding the law (no release of information without a warrant, respect for the US Constitution’s 1st amendment, etc.) than for the price. These price changes will likely not affect whether I use this site or not.

However, given that my site is not for making money, and thus does not pay for itself, I’m trying to figure out what the actual cost to me will be since I don’t make very much money. The accounts page is great for figuring out how much money I have left in my account, but very difficult to figure out how much it costs me per month because debits and cash deposits are combined on the “activity summary” table. Furthermore, it is difficult to filter out one type of cost from another–i.e., separating out bandwith costs to see how they vary, vs. storage costs, so that I can figure out where I need to be more economical.

Finally, you said that you used for yourself a calculator that estimated what the new costs would be to your users–it would be great to have access to that calculator from the accounts page. For example, if there was a button I could click which would show me what my account would cost with the new pricing plan had it been in effect for the time period currently being displayed on my Account Activity page, that would be awesome!

I realize this may require a lot of work on your part. Any piece of it that you could do without too much trouble would be very worth it.

By: Ivan Wed, 05 Aug 2009 17:05:41 +0000 I choose NFS because you guys not overselling,but if you decide change your pricing ploicy like this,$0.01/day extra fee for each dynamic site,I’m afraid NFS won’t be nearly free anymore,although your service is still affordable.
According to your Pricing Estimator,a wordpress blog with 75mb storage,3G bandwidth, domain not registerd but hosted by you,it will cost more than $38 per year,higher than asmallorange.
Is this comment going to be approved?Hey,I am really considering making changes before oct1.

Comments that meet the guidelines (and don’t advocate fraud) should be approved. I do think your example is not very good, though, as the WordPress blog you posted it to (this one) is significantly busier than the average member WordPress blog, but costs us a whole lot less to run than your made-up numbers, so you’re talking about $38/year to run a very large, very active blog, which seems entirely reasonable. We base our prices on what we believe is fair, and you’re welcome to agree or disagree and make your hosting decision accordingly.

Beyond that, I’m really not interested in comparisons to other hosting companies’ package pricing plans; no doubt someone can show how silly that is by digging up one of those “X TB for $Y.95/month” plans that come out to a bajillion dollars a year if you plug those “package” numbers into our estimator. Comparing apples and (forgive me) oranges — or anything else — based solely on price is just as bad of an idea as it ever was. We trust that people will continue to consider a lot of options when they choose a host, and that the option they choose will frequently (but not always) be NearlyFreeSpeech.NET. -jdw

By: Nick Wed, 05 Aug 2009 10:03:08 +0000 Echoing most of the above comments, I just want to echo my support and thanks. The new pricing sounds quite fair.

I’ve been very impressed with your service and ethics, and am happy to pay a little more for them.

If you start .uk domain registration at any point I’d be quite happy to move my domains over to you too.

So thanks.

By: Viktor Tue, 04 Aug 2009 18:06:31 +0000 I have 3 sites with NFS, I was pretty much happy with what I was paying. It was like $0.01 for MySQL + $0.01 for traffic + $0.01 for space per day. It accounts to c. $10 per year.
Now I should add $0.03 per day as all my sites are dynamic.
Total would be around $20 per year.
Which makes NFS inferior to the competitors for the owners of 3 sites and more, as there are many providers who give much more for this $20 – e.g. (link removed) (I am not advertizing) which is here forever with his $20 deal + you get 2 free domains + after a year you just get another one with them etc. etc. etc.
Sorry, guys – I would definitely agree to pay for support etc. – but now you are not even cheap with hosting.

There was quite a bit of debate about whether to approve this comment, since it appears to advocate getting cheaper hosting by defrauding one of our competitors. The link has been removed; if someone is going to advocate treating our competitors that way, they’re going to do it somewhere else.

The plan you linked to costs $20 for the first year and $120/year after that. That is what’s called a “loss leader.” If your plan to beat our pricing is to “stack” successive loss-leader promos intended for new customers only, I think that speaks volumes about how affordable our service really is.

Please note no more comments even remotely similar to this are going to get approved. -jdw